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Rachel E



Joined: 19 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: July 14 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://nosnorezone.com/order.html

Try this link.

I have to admit, the SOMNOGUARD AP looks like it might act like the TAP in that it has an adjusting screw. Interesting! Can be moulded and remoulded, too.

Notice that it only claims to take care of snoring and not apnea but for UARS and other SDB problems and perhaps even mild apnea, this may very well be, if nothing else, a starting place. For some, like the excited user above, it appears to be the answer. In any case, it is probably a move in the right direction for those wanting to see if they can tolerate an oral appliance or if it seems to help.

I may order one for my son! (ok, maybe me too...)

I am so glad it worked for you.
Sleep Well,

Rae
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snork1



Joined: 16 Dec 2003
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Location: Kirkland, WA

PostPosted: July 14 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rachel E wrote:
http://nosnorezone.com/order.html

Try this link.

I have to admit, the SOMNOGUARD AP looks like it might act like the TAP in that it has an adjusting screw. Interesting! Can be moulded and remoulded, too.

Notice that it only claims to take care of snoring and not apnea but for UARS and other SDB problems and perhaps even mild apnea, this may very well be, if nothing else, a starting place. For some, like the excited user above, it appears to be the answer. In any case, it is probably a move in the right direction for those wanting to see if they can tolerate an oral appliance or if it seems to help.

I may order one for my son! (ok, maybe me too...)

I am so glad it worked for you.
Sleep Well,

Rae


yes, that is the link that will get you to the $169 "no prescription, no dentist" one.

It COULD be a gawdsend for those on a tight budget, but it sure would be nice to get a sampling of more than one person's results for what appears to be a brand new device entering the market. Please PLEASE, any brave soles that try this, report results, good or bad! Maybe start a new topic with this device as the heading for future ease of searching.

Of course they say its just for snoring. To get official approval for apnea (even "mild" cases) would require all sorts of clinical testing, FDA approval etc and this would suddenly cost as much as the TAP. Confused
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Lizzzz



Joined: 28 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: July 14 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

YAY! Good job Rachel!
I think I'll try it; it's cheap enough for a trial. It also says you can get a 50% back if you are displeased and return it within a month. Sometimes I try to hold my lower jaw out and I get weirded out after a few seconds so this will be a good test. I'll post results here or on a new tread as Snork suggests.
The only thing I notice is that when I force my jaw forward it seems that my tongue stays behind...Anyone else like that? OK thanks for the link! Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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Lizzzz



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PostPosted: July 14 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK...I just ordered it...It can't be worse than one of those many masks I have in the drawer grave yard Rolling Eyes We shall see Very Happy
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macsanje



Joined: 25 Jun 2006
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Location: Florida

PostPosted: July 15 2006    Post subject: SOMNOGUARD AP Reply with quote

Hi! Interesting to read your more experienced reactions to the oral appliance I'm loving. I'm still doing great with it. I just wish I could check my oxygen saturation to get some sort of documentation that isn't subjective. I'd like to prove that I'm really experiencing improvement. A monitor costs more than the appliance! Even if it's a placebo effect, I feel better. A monitor would allow me to tweak it. Testing it in different forward positions is pretty subjective and probably very subtle without a monitor.

I believe I did read somewhere in the literature that it is FDA approved. That's what gave me the courage to try it. I thought that would indicate it's not a "fly-by-night" piece of junk.

The literature presented by the provider does mention apnea several times. I'm sure they cannot say it's a cure if it's available without a prescription, but they do hint that it may have a positive impact. They have to confine themselves to stopping snoring. However, since it does exactly what the prescription appliances do, opening the airway, I don't see how it can avoid helping!

I can feel the difference if I lie down on my back and take several deep breaths without the appliance and then put it in and do the same. It's easier to suck air in, and my esophagus definitely feels more open. Someone's post said it is exactly the same appliance the dentist provided and charged more than double. If you're going to give it a shot, I wish you the best. I'm sure there will be some folks for which it is not an answer. The law of averages applies.

I will say that my sleep doctor said the muscle tone in my esophagus was very good. That must be a factor. If it was "flabby" it would be more difficult to achieve a good opening even with the appliance.

Off the subject of oral appliances a little, do any of you have any experience with the effects of losing weight? My doctor looked at a weight chart for women my height and said I should lose 40 pounds. He didn't look at age, bone structure, or sedintary vs. active. I've lost 11 pounds, and I'm shooting for 15. When I get there I'll evaluate whether or not I can lose more. My fat ratio is nicely within the good range so I don't have a lot of "fat" to lose. I'm trying to walk 10,000 steps a day, and I lift 2 to 3 times a week. I don't know how much more I can do, but whatever it is, I'm trying to do "it." Any comments anyone?
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Curt



Joined: 14 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: July 24 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lizzzz wrote:
OK...I just ordered it...It can't be worse than one of those many masks I have in the drawer grave yard Rolling Eyes We shall see Very Happy


Liz,
Hey just wanted to see if there is any updates regarding this. Hopefully it worked? I'm thinking about getting one.

Thanks, Curt
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Lizzzz



Joined: 28 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: July 25 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Curt,
Yes there's lots of updates under the new topic: SOMNOGUARD AP. Check it out. See ya over there! Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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