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mosspa
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| tzatke wrote: | | I just checked the ingredients for Force Sleep. I get vicious headaches from Valerian, and melatonin is something I have to be very careful with. It can lower cortisol levels and 3 mg. flared my Sjogren's. My sleep specialist (the psychopharm one) tried working with me with it and told me NEVER to take it again. I did pick up some Rite Aid Unisom. My sleep doc (the other one) says there will be two new different sleep meds on the market next year. Hope springs eternal. |
I can't remember who posted what  Have you tried trazodone 100mg?
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tzatke
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| I did try trazodone and had a reverse reaction to it. It was before I had insomnia (I took it for interstitial cystitis pain) and it GAVE me insomnia. The only good thing to come of it was I was I started calling the all night CVS and asking the pharmacist questions in the middle of the night. Eventually I walked over; it's three blocks away and it was the summer. We dated for a short period of time but when the trazadone ended, so did the romance. It did not help the interstitial cystitis; if anything it made it worse. |
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roger
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| i received my free sample (force sleep). I've used it for a few nights and yeah it knocks you out and the sleep is relatively deep, but man the next day is a just huge CLOUD. Totally foggy. |
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Rosbergs3
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| Posted: October 01 2009 Post subject: |
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| roger wrote: | | i received my free sample (force sleep). I've used it for a few nights and yeah it knocks you out and the sleep is relatively deep, but man the next day is a just huge CLOUD. Totally foggy. |
I've been using it for a few weeks now and am really happy with it. I use it when i wake up at night to get back to sleep. I have not had any problems with it regarding next day symptoms though. |
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beardiedawg
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| I haven't seen the free sample. I've only seen the money back guarantee. Am I missing a spot on their website or have you guys ordered it from a different source? |
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mosspa
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| Posted: October 01 2009 Post subject: |
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| roger wrote: | | i received my free sample (force sleep). I've used it for a few nights and yeah it knocks you out and the sleep is relatively deep, but man the next day is a just huge CLOUD. Totally foggy. |
Roger, it is likely that you are super-sensitive to Doxylamine Succinate, which is the obvious active ingredient since at 85mg, there can't be enough of any of the other ingredients, except possibly melatonin, to make a difference. And, except for circadian adjustment, even the melatonin would be of questionable value since I doubt that they put enough melatonin in to produce any sedative effects. Note that they don't tell you quantities on their website. Anybody who has the product, if you post the ingredient quantities here it would be helpful.
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roger
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Maybe i'll try just one teaspoon instead. Though I bet at that level it won't have the sleep desired effects i need.
On a slightly diferent yet related note, I got a script for klonopin today. I don't plan on using it every day, just when required. I've heard pretty good things if used responsibly and sparingly. |
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mosspa
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| roger wrote: | Maybe i'll try just one teaspoon instead. Though I bet at that level it won't have the sleep desired effects i need.
On a slightly diferent yet related note, I got a script for klonopin today. I don't plan on using it every day, just when required. I've heard pretty good things if used responsibly and sparingly. |
There is no such thing as responsible and sparing use of Klonopin for sleep disorders. It is the worst thing you can use, even sporadically. If you must use a benzodiazepine use triazolam (Halcion). For sporadic use it is much more effective than Klonopin, has an incredibly short half life, and is a much cleaner benzodiazepine.
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tzatke
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| Isn't Halcion something that docs don't like to write? Clonazepam is very good for fibro; a year of it wiped mine out and did help me sleep. Now it does nothing. I didn't have any problems getting off of it. My sleep doc wrote Dalmane and Doral to give me a break from Ambien CR. Doral (so old no one knew it was still around) is more effective. I will ask about Halcion; one of my sleep specialist will write almost anything. My sleep problem is physiological and unfortunately thing |
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roger
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| mosspa wrote: | [
There is no such thing as responsible and sparing use of Klonopin for sleep disorders. It is the worst thing you can use, even sporadically. If you must use a benzodiazepine use triazolam (Halcion). For sporadic use it is much more effective than Klonopin, has an incredibly short half life, and is a much cleaner benzodiazepine.
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Moss, why do you think that Klonopin is the worst thing I can take?
Why would I not be able to use it sparingly and responsibly? Please elaborate. Thanks. |
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Glenda C.
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Dentist's are the primary prescribers for Halcion before major dental removals.
It knocks you out enough not to feel your teeth being removed.
I see some of the people on this board , do see that alot of these drugs are dangerous and actually don't work , they (pills) seem to make the situation worse for themselves.
Halcion is not a recommened drug and most doctor's won't prescribe it ! |
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Jay North
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| Glenda, you are ruining this site with comments on everything indiscriminately. Folks cannot exchange information. They are beginning to just tune out which I think probably is the best step. Given your issues as you state them, read and learn for a change. |
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mosspa
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| tzatke wrote: | | Isn't Halcion something that docs don't like to write? Clonazepam is very good for fibro; a year of it wiped mine out and did help me sleep. Now it does nothing. I didn't have any problems getting off of it. My sleep doc wrote Dalmane and Doral to give me a break from Ambien CR. Doral (so old no one knew it was still around) is more effective. I will ask about Halcion; one of my sleep specialist will write almost anything. My sleep problem is physiological and unfortunately thing |
The other thing you might want to consider is chloral hydrate. It is particularly effective when taken with ONE alcoholic drink ... i.e., the legendary Mickey Finn. It also doesn't interact with benzodiasepine or gaba-a receptors.
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mosspa
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| roger wrote: | | mosspa wrote: | [
There is no such thing as responsible and sparing use of Klonopin for sleep disorders. It is the worst thing you can use, even sporadically. If you must use a benzodiazepine use triazolam (Halcion). For sporadic use it is much more effective than Klonopin, has an incredibly short half life, and is a much cleaner benzodiazepine.
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Moss, why do you think that Klonopin is the worst thing I can take?
Why would I not be able to use it sparingly and responsibly? Please elaborate. Thanks. |
I'm not saying Klonopin is universally 'bad', it is just a horrible solution for sleep. First of all, it is a pretty long acting benzo. Not nearly as long as diazepam but much much longer than many that were developed as sedative hypnotics (Dalmane, Halcion, etc). Google Stevie Nicks and Klonopin. If her story doesn't scare the s*** out of you, nothing will. My point was/is that there are many benzodiazepines that are better than Klonopin for sleep, and that Halcion is the best of the bunch.
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DIZZYLAND
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What is the link to get the free samples ?
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